![]() ![]() i have 5.5 acres and a brand new 16x20 camp with loft for just $25,000 So much for "freedom."Īnyone have any experience with building in upstate NY? They've make it a punishable offense to live the way humans have been living for tens of thousands of years. Ugh, I'm disgusted by NY which has basically outlawed natural life. So, I guess the plan is to build a "shed" with a loft and hope no one complains, but this limits my options for the way it looks and whether or not I can put in wood stove. ![]() Next problem with PA is I can't afford more than an acre or so, as opposed to NY where I can get 2-8 acres for the same price. This exempts me from septic as well, except for the fact that local sewage codes generally require a septic or at least a sewage enforcement and DEP approved outhouse. They even have an exemption for recreational cabins which removes the requirements for permits or inspections as long as I sign an affadavit stating that it will not be a full time residence, no mail will be delivered, etc. PA has much more lax regulations as they use UCC ( Uniform Construction Code) which is national standards as opposed to international. So, near the point of complete frustration I decided to look into PA. ![]() for bathroom) which can indeed have a compost toilet as long as I get a notarized letter from DEP stating that I can use a compost toilet. Yet another CEO told me that yes, I can indeed build a recreational cabin, but it must be a minimum of 190 square feet (120 min. But, the local CEO's tell me that their requirements (the townships) say compost toilets are not allowed at all, only full septic systems. I spoke to a guy from DEP and he told me as far as he's concerned a compost toilet is just fine as long as there is no running water or plumbing connected to the structure, and it's kept a minimum of 100 feet from streams, ponds, etc. The next issue is the DEP (Department of Environmental Protection) which determines waste water and sewage regulations for most of the southern upstate area, as it's in the NYC watershed. One guy told me in most cases no one will "bust my balls" unless a neighbor complains that I've been staying overnight. Some of the CEO's seem to not care if I build a "shed" and sleep in it on the weekends on occasion, but most of them seem very hostile to the idea. This of course will make a $2000 project into a $25,000 project, and require endless forms, permits and inspections. If the building becomes a residence (which even one night of sleeping will make it), the minimum size jumps to 800 square feet and requires a septic system, running water and full electrical system. I've spoken to just about every code enforcement officer in Delaware County, which is where we are hoping to buy, and although NY allows a structure under 144 square feet to be built without a permit, this is only intended for sheds/storage buildings. The problem I'm running across is that NY building code (which is actually determined by the International Code Council, thank you global government), is a nightmare to comply with, making a simple recreational cabin nearly impossible to construct. My wife and I have been scouting upstate NY for some land to build a small cabin, and in the future, a house. I'm new to the site and what a great find. Small Cabin Forum / Properties / Building a cabin in upstate NY ![]() Forums - Register/Sign Up - Reply - Search - Statistics. ![]()
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